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Once upon a time, there was a little girl who read the Sunday comics, and laughed at Dick Tracy's two-way video communicator watch. Heck, he got better reception than the TV, and never needed to whack the thing to clear up the picture. It was quite obviously fantasy.

On the other hand, she lived in the aftermath of a very robust civil rights movement. She knew that women weren't making as much money as men yet--but that was changing, and certainly by the time she was grown up, or at least by the time her daughters might be looking for jobs, we'd have had a female President and roughly half of the CEOs in the country would be women.

Fast-forward to the present.

Last year, I got a Skype-tour of my daughter's dorm room. I chat with people on the other side of the world almost daily and have collaborated on stories with people I've never met in person. The only thing that has kept us from video-conferencing on cell phones is that we (or at least I) have, when I've had it for technology, spent my money on a working computer rather than an up-to-date fancy cell phones.

But we have the technology!

On the other hand, equal pay for equal work is still a dream. Equal _recognition_ for equal work is also just a daydream--during #feministsf chat today on Twitter, we were given a link to yet another study showing that speculative fiction by women get fewer reviews than fiction by men.

Why do I still live in a world where women always, always face challenges that men don't?

I heard an interview on NPR, a man who looked into what we--the human race--is capable of doing. He came to the conclusion that most of the things that were just dreams when I was a little girl are possible today. Why aren't they real?

All we need to make these dreams reality, he said, is money and political will.

Of course, he was talking about scientific progress. But how much of our social progress is fostered--or hindered--by money and political will?

After all, geek-toys were, when I was young, guy-toys. It wasn't Brenda Starr who had the wrist-communicator, after all.

Is it really a coincidence that the techie dreams became real, and equality for women didn't?

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Date: 2012-03-13 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsittingstill.livejournal.com
Yes, that is the understandable bitterness I was talking about.

Many of the leaders of the suffragist movement had been faithful supporters of abolition for many years. They thought (quite reasonably in my opinion) that abolitionists should similarly support them, and that blacks and women should obtain the right to vote at the same time.

When bills were drafted to give blacks the right to vote, however, women were excluded. Abolitionists made no moves to support women's suffrage in any other way either (that I know of.) As a direct result, black men got the right to vote fifty years before women did. Most of the women who were betrayed grew old and died without ever seeing women get the vote.

This led to predictable bad feeling. The racism in question is deplorable, and has since been laid aside, but nobody is at her most reasonable when she has been so decidedly stabbed in the back with such devastating results.

There was, however, no push I am aware of to gain only white women the vote.

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Date: 2012-03-13 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baaing-tree.livejournal.com
There was, however, no push I am aware of to gain only white women the vote.

Oh no, that I agree with. The thing is, BLACK WOMEN were stabbed in the back too. That white women, while fighting for the right to vote, splashed it on black women who were probably equally stricken is completely deplorable to me. The black women had to deal with the racism in their own groups, while at the same time fighting for the right to vote. That's what I meant to say, not that the racism manifested in ways that only white women should get the vote.

--Rogan

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Date: 2012-03-13 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsittingstill.livejournal.com
Indeed they were; stabbed in the back twice over. By their fellow women's racist statements, and by their fellow blacks' refusal to work with them to obtain their right to vote.

That sucks big time, I absolutely agree.

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Date: 2012-03-13 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyld-dandelyon.livejournal.com
Fifty years is a very long time!

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Date: 2012-03-13 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsittingstill.livejournal.com
It wasn't until I sat down and subtracted the years of the beginning of the movement(s) and the respective amendments from each other that I realized that women fought for generations to get the right to vote, and many of the ones who began the fight must have grown old and died without seeing the end of it. It made me want to weep.

And to damn well vote if I have to drag myself to the polls on my hands and knees.

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Date: 2012-03-14 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyld-dandelyon.livejournal.com
I knew many of them died before the right to vote was achieved.

I agree that the best way to honor them is to vote!

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